{ "document_metadata": { "page_number": "12", "document_number": "755", "date": "08/10/22", "document_type": "court transcript", "has_handwriting": false, "has_stamps": false }, "full_text": "Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 12 of 262 1717 LC8Cmax1\n\n1 copies.\n2 MS. STERNHEIM: Judge, the fact that somebody fills out a request for insurance does not deem it a business record.\n3 It is not related to the course of business of the Mar-a-Lago property, and the government is trying, through a backdoor method, to draw an inference that because a person named Virginia Roberts was insured by a man named Sky Roberts, that she was, one, employed by Mar-a-Lago or, two, was at Mar-a-Lago. Insurance does not support that.\n4\n5 THE COURT: Nothing in these records appears support that she was employed at Mar-a-Lago.\n6\n7 MR. ROHRBACH: The government agrees, your Honor, these records don't give rise to that.\n8\n9 THE COURT: But you're trying to show that?\n10\n11 MR. ROHRBACH: That she was the dependent of a Mar-a-Lago employee.\n12\n13 On the insurance point, I would note that Sky Roberts was not an outsider to Mar-a-Lago at the time he filled out the employee benefits forms. He was an employee of Mar-a-Lago, and one of the things Mar-a-Lago does is provide benefits to its employees.\n14\n15 THE COURT: And then on the business records, your argument, Ms. Sternheim, is that because it's a form filled out by Mar-a-Lago employees for the purposes of insurance that's provided by another entity, that they're not a Mar-a-Lago\n16\n17 SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300\n\nDOJ-OGR-00013290", "text_blocks": [ { "type": "printed", "content": "Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 12 of 262 1717 LC8Cmax1", "position": "header" }, { "type": "printed", "content": "SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300", "position": "footer" }, { "type": "printed", "content": "DOJ-OGR-00013290", "position": "footer" }, { "type": "printed", "content": "1 copies.\n2 MS. STERNHEIM: Judge, the fact that somebody fills out a request for insurance does not deem it a business record.\n3 It is not related to the course of business of the Mar-a-Lago property, and the government is trying, through a backdoor method, to draw an inference that because a person named Virginia Roberts was insured by a man named Sky Roberts, that she was, one, employed by Mar-a-Lago or, two, was at Mar-a-Lago. Insurance does not support that.\n4\n5 THE COURT: Nothing in these records appears support that she was employed at Mar-a-Lago.\n6\n7 MR. ROHRBACH: The government agrees, your Honor, these records don't give rise to that.\n8\n9 THE COURT: But you're trying to show that?\n10\n11 MR. ROHRBACH: That she was the dependent of a Mar-a-Lago employee.\n12\n13 On the insurance point, I would note that Sky Roberts was not an outsider to Mar-a-Lago at the time he filled out the employee benefits forms. He was an employee of Mar-a-Lago, and one of the things Mar-a-Lago does is provide benefits to its employees.\n14\n15 THE COURT: And then on the business records, your argument, Ms. Sternheim, is that because it's a form filled out by Mar-a-Lago employees for the purposes of insurance that's provided by another entity, that they're not a Mar-a-Lago", "position": "main" } ], "entities": { "people": [ "MS. STERNHEIM", "Virginia Roberts", "Sky Roberts", "MR. ROHRBACH", "Ms. Sternheim" ], "organizations": [ "Mar-a-Lago", "SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C." ], "locations": [], "dates": [ "08/10/22" ], "reference_numbers": [ "1:20-cr-00330-PAE", "755", "DOJ-OGR-00013290" ] }, "additional_notes": "The document appears to be a court transcript with a clear and readable format. There are no visible redactions or damage." }