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  "full_text": "Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 499-2 Filed 11/23/21 Page 146 of 159\nLBAAMAX5ps Rocchio - Cross\n1 Honor, part of my point.\n2 THE COURT: If the point is that she doesn't know any\n3 of the facts of the specific case and the government concedes\n4 that's true, we can move on.\n5 MR. PAGLIUCA: Yes.\n6 I guess the other point, your Honor, which I can\n7 develop, is, these studies that are included and impact the\n8 statistics are really not relevant here because they deal with\n9 males or a combination of males and females, and there are only\n10 a few of them that deal with females specifically.\n11 THE COURT: OK.\n12 MR. PAGLIUCA: So when we're conflating these things,\n13 it conflates the numbers.\n14 May I proceed, your Honor?\n15 THE COURT: You may.\n16 MR. PAGLIUCA: Thank you.\n17 Q. So that the first study, which is in 2016, in the last\n18 column, is all males. Do you see that?\n19 A. Could you -- the page is upside down on my screen. Can we\n20 rotate it so that I can look at what you're seeing, please.\n21 MR. PAGLIUCA: I don't know if Ms. Drescher can do\n22 that or not.\n23 THE WITNESS: Or I can look at a paper copy. But I --\n24 there's no way I can read that.\n25 THE COURT: I can't read it either.\nSOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.\n(212) 805-0300\nDOJ-OGR-00008014",
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