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  "full_text": "Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 19 of 262 1724 LC8Cmax1\n\n1 THE COURT: That may or may not be true depending on\n2 the testimony.\n3 MS. STERNHEIM: Well, it would be hearsay as to her\n4 knowledge, having gained it from somebody remotely in the\n5 company providing that to her.\n6 THE COURT: So if her testimony is, this is the\n7 practice and this was the longstanding practice, I learned it\n8 from predecessors or the like, she might have -- just as her\n9 understanding of the practice of maintaining records is what\n10 she learned in the course of her employment, it may be -- I'm\n11 doubtful that we'll get this testimony. We'll see what the\n12 testimony is.\n13 My current thinking is 823 comes in. That gives -- I\n14 mean, what I understand the relevance to be -- and there is no\n15 objection to 823. 824, absent the content, I'm not sure gets\n16 you anything beyond what 823 gets you.\n17 MR. ROHRBACH: I think that's right, your Honor. If\n18 824 could not come in with the content, we probably would not\n19 offer 824.\n20 I would like to just have this conversation with\n21 Ms. Gill, as she's been the head of HR for Mar-a-Lago for quite\n22 a long time. She's reviewed this particular employment file,\n23 which is much larger than this set of records. So I think she\n24 may have a great well more to say about these issues and we\n25 would like to be able to talk with her.\n\nSOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.\n(212) 805-0300\n\nDOJ-OGR-00013297",
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