mirror-epstein-docs/results/IMAGES006/DOJ-OGR-00014991.json

{
  "document_metadata": {
    "page_number": "115",
    "document_number": "782",
    "date": "01/15/25",
    "document_type": "court transcript",
    "has_handwriting": false,
    "has_stamps": false
  },
  "full_text": "Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 782 Filed 01/15/25 Page 115 of 158 115 LBAGmax4 Rocchio - Cross grooming; is that correct? A. So it -- grooming, the tactics you're referring to are a series of manipulative strategies. And to the extent that those manipulative strategies are being used to increase the likelihood of sexual exploitation and sexual abuse, then we would describe it as sexual grooming. Q. Let me ask you a question. In order for something to become grooming, you are looking at the intent of the groomer relative to the act; correct? A. So the intent and the function of the behavior relative to the act has always been part of the definition of grooming, yes. Q. So the answer to my question is yes; is that right? A. Yes. Q. So absent the intent to sexually abuse someone, there are a myriad of actions that one could consider grooming? A. The actions themselves are in the function of the establishment of a relationship of trust and attachment or trauma bonding. So to the extent that those behaviors build a relationship, then yes, they could be in another context normative behaviors. Q. And normative behaviors being normal behaviors; right? A. It could be. Q. So for example, a parent wants to take an interest in their child; correct? SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00014991",
  "text_blocks": [
    {
      "type": "printed",
      "content": "Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 782 Filed 01/15/25 Page 115 of 158 115 LBAGmax4 Rocchio - Cross",
      "position": "header"
    },
    {
      "type": "printed",
      "content": "grooming; is that correct? A. So it -- grooming, the tactics you're referring to are a series of manipulative strategies. And to the extent that those manipulative strategies are being used to increase the likelihood of sexual exploitation and sexual abuse, then we would describe it as sexual grooming. Q. Let me ask you a question. In order for something to become grooming, you are looking at the intent of the groomer relative to the act; correct? A. So the intent and the function of the behavior relative to the act has always been part of the definition of grooming, yes. Q. So the answer to my question is yes; is that right? A. Yes. Q. So absent the intent to sexually abuse someone, there are a myriad of actions that one could consider grooming? A. The actions themselves are in the function of the establishment of a relationship of trust and attachment or trauma bonding. So to the extent that those behaviors build a relationship, then yes, they could be in another context normative behaviors. Q. And normative behaviors being normal behaviors; right? A. It could be. Q. So for example, a parent wants to take an interest in their child; correct?",
      "position": "main"
    },
    {
      "type": "printed",
      "content": "SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300",
      "position": "footer"
    },
    {
      "type": "printed",
      "content": "DOJ-OGR-00014991",
      "position": "footer"
    }
  ],
  "entities": {
    "people": [],
    "organizations": [
      "SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C."
    ],
    "locations": [],
    "dates": [
      "01/15/25"
    ],
    "reference_numbers": [
      "1:20-cr-00330-PAE",
      "782",
      "DOJ-OGR-00014991"
    ]
  },
  "additional_notes": "The document appears to be a court transcript with a clear and legible format. There are no visible redactions or damage."
}