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  "full_text": "Case 22-1426, Document 58 02/28/2023, 3475901, Page9 of 221\nA-209\n3128\nLCRVMAXT\n1 respect to the second element. Beyond that, we're not able to\n2 parse the question because we find it confusing; so we think\n3 the safest course is to refer the jurors to the comprehensive\n4 instruction with respect to the second element.\n5 THE COURT: Mr. Everdell.\n6 MR. EVERDELL: Your Honor, I think the answer to this\n7 question is no, and I'll tell you the rationale for this.\n8 As to the jurors' note, they've clearly separated out\n9 in their minds the flight to New Mexico versus the flight back\n10 from New Mexico. And in their minds, there still is a\n11 question, it would seem, that the flight -- whatever the\n12 purpose of the flight to New Mexico was, whether it was for\n13 illicit sexual activity or not, that is different from the\n14 purpose of the flight back from New Mexico. And they are\n15 asking can she be found guilty solely on if there's some aiding\n16 and abetting, some helping of that flight from New Mexico,\n17 which presumably the flight home they're saying.\n18 THE COURT: So the flight from New Mexico to where?\n19 MR. EVERDELL: Well, there is no record of a flight\n20 from New Mexico. But what they are saying, I think, in this\n21 note is they are separating out in their minds the flight to\n22 New Mexico versus whatever flight she may have taken from New\n23 Mexico. And I would say based on the instructions in the\n24 Court's instructions which the government pointed to, there has\n25 to be -- the significant or motivating purpose of the travel\nSOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.\n(212) 805-0300\nDOJ-OGR-00020835",
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