mirror-epstein-docs/results/IMAGES001/DOJ-OGR-00000568.json

{
  "document_metadata": {
    "page_number": "58",
    "document_number": "36",
    "date": "07/24/19",
    "document_type": "court transcript",
    "has_handwriting": false,
    "has_stamps": false
  },
  "full_text": "Case 1:19-cr-00490-RMB Document 36 Filed 07/24/19 Page 58 of 74 58\nmore so than someone who is educated and privileged, and they might need it more.\nI think everybody has the same right, but it's very hard. If the test is consult with counsel, well, then all this other conversation we've been having is out the window because everybody has a right to consult with counsel, and we have to come up with a new set of cases and a new set of tests.\nBy the way, don't think I don't appreciate that a defendant should be counseled and should be able to consult with counsel. But if that's the standard, then what are we going to tell all those people who can't make a $500 or $1,000 bail who say, I want to talk to my lawyer because the immigration authorities are going to come and take my wife away, etc., etc., etc., Separate the kids.\nMR. WEINBERG: I have three answers to that too.\nTHE COURT: I'd like them.\nMR. WEINBERG: That's an important question. The first is that the defendants in Rikers Island, or at least the vast majority of them, are not facing a prosecution team as well resourced and as talented as this one. They're not facing a million pages of discovery. There may be exceptions.\nTHE COURT: They might be facing a lot more serious consequences in terms of jail or incarceration for let's say assault or murder or rape or whatever, and many of them do face those consequences.\nSOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.\n(212) 805-0300",
  "text_blocks": [
    {
      "type": "printed",
      "content": "Case 1:19-cr-00490-RMB Document 36 Filed 07/24/19 Page 58 of 74 58",
      "position": "header"
    },
    {
      "type": "printed",
      "content": "more so than someone who is educated and privileged, and they might need it more.\nI think everybody has the same right, but it's very hard. If the test is consult with counsel, well, then all this other conversation we've been having is out the window because everybody has a right to consult with counsel, and we have to come up with a new set of cases and a new set of tests.\nBy the way, don't think I don't appreciate that a defendant should be counseled and should be able to consult with counsel. But if that's the standard, then what are we going to tell all those people who can't make a $500 or $1,000 bail who say, I want to talk to my lawyer because the immigration authorities are going to come and take my wife away, etc., etc., etc., Separate the kids.\nMR. WEINBERG: I have three answers to that too.\nTHE COURT: I'd like them.\nMR. WEINBERG: That's an important question. The first is that the defendants in Rikers Island, or at least the vast majority of them, are not facing a prosecution team as well resourced and as talented as this one. They're not facing a million pages of discovery. There may be exceptions.\nTHE COURT: They might be facing a lot more serious consequences in terms of jail or incarceration for let's say assault or murder or rape or whatever, and many of them do face those consequences.",
      "position": "main content"
    },
    {
      "type": "printed",
      "content": "SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.\n(212) 805-0300",
      "position": "footer"
    }
  ],
  "entities": {
    "people": [
      "MR. WEINBERG"
    ],
    "organizations": [
      "SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C."
    ],
    "locations": [
      "Rikers Island"
    ],
    "dates": [
      "07/24/19"
    ],
    "reference_numbers": [
      "1:19-cr-00490-RMB",
      "36"
    ]
  },
  "additional_notes": "The document appears to be a court transcript with a clear and readable format. There are no visible redactions or damage."
}