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  "full_text": "Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 80 of 262 1785 LC8Cmax3 Hesse - direct\n1 Circuit made clear, quote, the term custodian or other qualified witness in Rule 803.6 is generally given a very broad interpretation. A witness need not be a custodian or have personal knowledge of the actual creation of the document to be qualified within the meaning of Rule 803.6. And that's exactly the foundation here under the business rules exception and for that reason, your Honor, we offer these exhibits.\n2 MR. PAGLIUCA: Your Honor, factually, Mr. Alessi left in 2002. It's clear from looking at these records that whatever the practice was, was not followed going forward.\n3 THE COURT: Not followed in every instance.\n4 MR. PAGLIUCA: In most, in my review of these records. We don't have -- I didn't do a percentages here, but there is a substantial number of items in that book that don't follow what either Mr. Alessi or Ms. Hesse said. And so, I don't think, factually, you can say that these records were regularly -- well -- so this goes to --\n5 I think there are two issues. First, is there a business practice in effect during the time that these particular exhibits are collected. That's the first question. Then the second question is sort of a Lieberman-related issue, and that is the content of what's in these messages, the actual words themselves, all the Western Union money transfer records for the truth of the content of what was written in the money\nSOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00013358",
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