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  "full_text": "Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 773 Filed 08/10/22 Page 20 of 29 3137 LCRVMAXT Mexico rather than the place where they did put the comma, then that would have told us, can't she be responsible for aiding in the transportation of the return flight, comma, but not the flight to New Mexico, comma. That would then put the where/if the intent was -- THE COURT: That would be an entirely different meaning to the question. MS. MENNINGER: I think so. THE COURT: No, I agree. What I don't know is I don't know what they meant and I don't know how much weight to put on that comma placement; because, as you've noted, that precise sentence without that comma has an entirely different meaning. MS. MODE: Yes, your Honor. And I think at the point at which we're parsing jury notes like statutes this finely, I think it illustrates the point that this note is confusing; that we're not sure what the jury is asking about either factually or legally. The question is about the second element; and so we think the proper course is to refer the jury to those particular instructions. And the jury is free to send a clarifying note, if they wish to do so. But I think when we are parsing commas this finely in a note that is unclear, it's unclear which clauses are modifying which clauses, or which flights we're even talking about, I think it's far too confusing to give simple answers here. SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300",
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